JR
There's something we said about knowing when the right time is to say stop. On a complementary side there's maybe something to be said about thinking about how the process itself could be also a generator of artistic work. For example, with the data catalogue that you made. I actually wanted to ask you: what is the audio component of that online? Is it an audio piece for every page of the catalogue?
DP
Basically yes.
JR
And what is the connection between the audio piece and the page?
DP
There are different sub page groups, as it is now, which are linked to specific sounds. Some sounds are similar to what you heard in the concert, they are also produced by the same process, which is a dynamical system influenced by the data of the four different dataset we used. Then there are these rots and there are field recordings. So we basically divided the page ranges of the catalogue into sections and then assigned each section to a group of sound files, depending on the content of the page.
JR
Ok, that's kind of what I thought it was.
DP
And it's not directly related to the content, but its' more an aesthetic choice. What you hear in the sound is not a sonification of what you see in the page. The connection is a little bit looser.
JR
Ok, because going back to this idea of the process itself being the driver for creating work, it made me think of the idea of having a live catalogue, or something that's constantly being modified or growing. Because that kind of platform - the catalogue as an idea - it seems like an interesting landing place for these kind of process-based works. That's something I'm thinking a lot about right now in my own work, and there is this question.. Well, if you're going to be processual you still need to think about what things you generate, what you put in the world. And the research catalogue is kind of an interesting take on that, because the RC is not meant to be presented as an artwork, it's meant to be something that kind of builds up into something you maybe submit to the JAR or something like that. So what kind of alternative forms of catalogues are there that could serve as a repository as well as kind of a presentation. That's why I really like this website that you guys made, because I thought that is a really cool format, that could potentially be something that's kind of living or following a process. If you have these works were you can't avoid these long implementations process, maybe there's some way of making the process poetic, generating something, and then having a place for these things. Which are not gonna be full works, but maybe taken together they could be thought of as a full work. Maybe there's some way of thinking about how that can emerge. Even at the stage here where I'm figuring out how animated visualisation in Python works. And there's a possibility for an intervention, even if I just take an hour and explore what this can generate. That could already be something, if glued together with a number of other things. So maybe that's something I should explore also.